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John Hamilton's avatar

I had just about had it with Substack advice. I was tempted to not even read this post.

But I did—and it's refreshingly great. So great that I'm going to print it out, keep it on my desk, and not read any other advice for the rest of the year.

Thank you.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

That's so kind! Thanks!

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Melissa Scala's avatar

Agree!! This advice is SOLID! It is so great that she shared perspectives from so many other Substackers who have found their place here on the platform.

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Melissa Scala's avatar

Makes me feel all cozy and... not alone on Substack :-).

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Nicolas Sutro's avatar

Man, snap.

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Jonathan Fields's avatar

Newly arrived here, super helpful to hear what others have figured out. As someone who was blogging back in 2008, I agree with Beth Kempton, there’s a similar feeling of collegiality to those early days.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Hi Jonathan! Blast from the past. Yes, also like Twitter in 2006-2008, I'd say!

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Jonathan Fields's avatar

So true. Though with twitter, you were as likely to get the fail whale as you were to be able to tweet back then, but we loved it anyway.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Love me a fail whale! ;)

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Beth Kempton's avatar

Oh the days of Google Reader!

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Patricia Krohn's avatar

Same. That was the comment that resonated with me too. I started blogging I think back in 2007 and there was a community aspect to it vs a gimmicky salesy feel.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Totally. The blogspot days. No mailing lists. No selling. Speaking of which, I got a notice recently I had to log in to prevent deletion. Beware!

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Patricia Krohn's avatar

Thanks for letting me know

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Patricia Krohn's avatar

I didnt get that notice. I had actually totally forgot about my old blog until recently.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Don't let it die!

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Ashley's avatar

Wow this is so helpful. I've noticed how much more authentic this platform seems to be compared to others online. This genuine and encouraging advice from those who have been at it a while makes me even more excited to dive in just for the pure joy of it and let growth happen more naturally.

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Nicolas Sutro's avatar

There is an interesting thread here in comments about a disillusionment or a pissed offness with Substack advice on growth. I get it. And so, I was almost not going to read your post, Claire. But I’m glad I did for its collegiate message.

I don’t think I’m off to alter my approach here (The Tarnished Gloriole, weekly instalments, free, have a look, subscribe if you like it…I just hype it everywhere as we are each our own publicists, and, after all, I’m its writer so I have a responsibility to its growth) and there are some suggestions that resonate and some that don’t so much. It’s more the sense of being part of a conversation with people who are thinking about how to approach it all.

I guess my takeaway is - above all else - to do the work on my Stack, be cool and open on Notes, not kvetch and plotz about all the growth froth you can’t do anything about because it just is what it is and just such an inevitability on a gig like this. Keep it light: just because the work is serious, doesn’t mean overthinking the stuff around the edges.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

The growth froth! I love that phrase! I think Substack is unique in internet marketing land (where I’ve spend some timeeeeeee, folks) in that you have a big contingent of true writers, and so there’s this critical wave that is critical (said twice) who push against the How-To growth frothers. It makes an interesting for an intersting soup of growth deniers with growth frothers, hitting against each other, with some of the frogs eventually getting out of the bucket to soar, in one way or another. Not frogs? I forget.

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Melissa Scala's avatar

a MUST read {!!!!!!}

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

yay!

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Lucy Werner's avatar

I’m going to do as my publication says and Hype myself and stick mine in here. Just because I’m very much a one-size fits no-one and I’ve definitely grown in some ways I’ve been told not to on here:https://hypeyourself.substack.com/p/borrow-everything-i-know-about-growing

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Yay! Did you turn on paid immediately for all posts? How did you break it up / or how do you recommend?

"Turn on paid immediately. This was advice I took from a free workshop by Farrah @Substack as I already had an audience, I got to share with them what I was doing and invite them to come with me at a pilot price"

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Lucy Werner's avatar

I used to only do a monthly so I kept that free. But told the monthly people I would be offering extra posts for paid. Some are prompts so I make the prompt itself and first bit of advice free and then you pay for extra. Everything else like personal essays or monthly lives is under PayPal. BUT I like to make gifts for my free so every now and again will do advice articles for them too.

I am no expert so definitely can’t recommend other than being super clear for yourself what is free and what isn’t.

AND making sure that is sustainable. I think people can overcook content at first when they turn on paid and then they burn out

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

So you have an immediate paywall on those everything else posts?

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Lucy Werner's avatar

I do have a FREE to read section and try to do some of my best or most helpful writing there outside of my monthly.

Sometimes paywall is immediate, sometimes lower down, depends on the type of post.

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Nicolas Sutro's avatar

I really dig your willingness to hype your work . Cool.

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Lucy Werner's avatar

Walk your talk and all that....

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Walk!

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Lucy Werner's avatar

For a minute I thought I had written a bad typo 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

;;)

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Jon Moore's avatar

Thanks for doing this.

There are lots of books and crannies in the “Substack advice world,” and this just kinda Keeps It Simple, Stupid from some people who’ve made it reasonably big here.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Glad to hear it. It's interesting. I've heard complaints about how the Substack advice world is growing, and I get it - but it seems par for the course; it always does in any network...

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Elizabeth | Space Breathwork's avatar

I almost didn't read this because I have become quite the skeptic when it comes to posts on growth - whether on substack or any other social media platform (I hate to admit I have thrown too much money towards "coaches" and courses designed to help me grow my business and social media... live and learn).

But this one was more reaffirming. Looking at all the individuals and their approaches made it seem like we can all find our own way. I've been on substack for two years now, and apart from a break, I've been rather consistent. I'm still working out how to grow a community but that has been the shift I've felt in myself - away from a pure numbers and metrics approach to one of building a community of likeminded individuals. Which is why I've restructured my writing to be around one particular theme for a month. To give adequate space for both myself and the reader to investigate how it comes up in your life (this month is "meeting yourself where you are") and I provide practices, journalling prompts and other things. I really want to provide something to the world that can help others if they apply it and question and show up. And it's free for two months before going behind the paywall so people can use the resources regardless of financial ability.

And if people like what they see there, then of course I'd love if they joined me in some of my other offerings (like breathwork) which is very much an extension of what is on here.

All of this to say, I think substack provides a platform and it is on us to decide what we do with it.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Glad to hear it! Theming is so interesting. Do you find your readers pivot as the focus does, also?

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Elizabeth | Space Breathwork's avatar

I haven’t done it long enough to really know for sure but I’m continuing with my old content too, so the pivot is more of a value add than anything else.

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Prajna O'Hara's avatar

I really want to read this, but I can’t read it right now. I am new to sub stack and eager for connection and support as I learn. But how do I save something to read it later? Thank you for your post.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

look up to the dots on the top right of the post!

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Michael Owen's avatar

just passed 100, this helped a lot. Thank you!

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

yay!

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Christopher Meesto Erato's avatar

Sounds cool! I could be wrong but it's based on my own experience - this is an estimate and yet I see it growing everyday, which is why I need this follow limit lifted ASAP! I will send you a screen shot of the pop up limit message.

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Amy Brown's avatar

Thanks for reaching out to all these smart Substackers--very smart of you to do so and generous of you to share with us. So many tips and tricks to try out here. Appreciate it!

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Glad you liked!

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Christine Edwards's avatar

Fantastic roundup. Thank you for sharing this.

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

glad you liked!

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Beth Kempton's avatar

Thank you so much for including me. Some great advice here. I was very much making it up as I went along when I wrote that post - still am, but with more consistency🤣 I think my main strategy here is to have a good time❤️

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

I just saw your book front and center in a small bookstore in Rio de Janeiro. Looked beautiful, as always ❤️

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Beth Kempton's avatar

Oh how lovely! It’s amazing how they travel. Thank you for letting me know. Hope you had a great time there Xx

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Elizabeth's avatar

Thanks for sharing my post!

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Thanks to you! I love your newsletter!

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Michelle Ciani's avatar

Great roundup so helpful, some new to me Substackers with great advice, thank you for sharing 😊

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Claire Diaz-Ortiz's avatar

Thanks for reading!

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